You’re right about the MFD video. It does somehow seem to have a slightly different feel/sound to it.
Nothing too obvious but just certain elements I seem to recall sounding ‘better’.
From: michaeljean
Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 12:09 AM
To: ***@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [tadream] What should be done to promote the legacy of TD?
Everyone responds differently to each project. I have been listening to TD
for over 30 years and really do enjoy MFD immensely. It just so happens was
just watching the video a few minutes ago with my kids and cant believe it
is five years old already. I can count on one hand those TD releases that
to me were really dull to me (like Deadly Care, or Dead Solid Perfect).
My point it not to argue, but rather ask others who do know the MFD material
well whether the video mix is different than the audio mix. I "seem" to
enjoy the video more than the disc, and wondered if anyone knows if they are
actually different or not.
To promote their legacy they need to set up a Foundation, which is something
I thought was in the works at one time.
MJ
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Ricardo Aranda
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 3:40 PM
To: mailto:tadream%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] What should be done to promote the legacy of TD?
From time to time I use to feel that still there will be some new TD stuff
that will blow mi mind, every 5 or 6 new releases I may pick one of them and
give it close attention, that was the case of that (to me) disgraceful
Madcap`s Flaming Duty. Any recording like that with other names printed on
cover may bore myself to death but being a TD release in addition it makes
me sad, really.
I have the Phaedra 35th anniversary DVD and certainly has great 25 minutes
of great music from the beggining although plenty of it is sampled, there`s
little of live playing there, then a blond chic comes in and begin smashing
toms, and magic vanishes little by little. The falling down in freefall of
Edgar`s creation music quality is so evident that IMO he should have ended
with TD, I guess in 2000 - 2002, now all those Virgin releases and mostly
all the music realeased in the eighties consists just on a short period of
time, but still I have plenty of fantastic music in there to enjoy, listen
to and re-discover every time I listen to anything from 1971, to say 1988,
including solo releases. Being fair with the most exciting band and music I
met in my entire life is to promote that part of it`s legacy. If my son, for
example picks that MFD mistakenly to know what does TD sound like, will
discard it after playing it for 10 minutes and will never want to know the
magnificence of Ricochet.
We still can do many things by being members of this or other list, starting
from sharing experiences, thoughts opinions, even friendship upon a common
passion we had...errrr...."we have".
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From: "Matthew Stringer" <mailto:qube%40firstnet.co.uk>
To: <mailto:tadream%40yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 3:41 PM
Subject: Re: [tadream] What should be done to promote the legacy of TD?
Really?
To say that would mean that you have no interest or care at all.
to say take it or leave it is what you say about any random artist you
couldn't care less about.
Haslinger for example, I've no interest in his music, whether he scores
another hit film or not, I couldn't care less. Good luck to him. He's a
fantastic musician but it's not for me.
But TD were the sound track of my youth, they meant the world to me, the
music they created could not have been created by anyone else, they were
better than everyone, completely unique in their awesomeness. Despite
decades of advances in technology, it's still beyond the reach of everyone
else, sure there's the odd Ricochet clone and a few covers of Logos but all
they do is illustrate the futility in trying to be that good.
They've been copied and emulated a thousand times but no-one comes close to
capturing the magic they had.
The new stuff isn't special in that anyone with a synth could knock out
something that is at least as good, there's a million musicians on
Soundcloud that are putting together tracks at home that run rings about
what TD are doing. This shouldn't be possible. They're TD for Christ's sake!
Something like that horrid Horizon remix would have never passed their
quality control before, 20 years ago if Ed had heard it he'd have ridiculed
it and rightly so.
It's not like he could, if he wanted to make something on a par with Horizon
but is simply choosing not to, he has to know that if he did the fans would
be all over it and this list teeming with posts. But he can't and he doesn't
really care and it's heartbreaking to witness.
But don't dare sully the legacy of Tangerine Dream by pretending the the
stuff 'they're' making now is anything like as good or as impressive as the
stuff they were doing over 25 years ago.
If I couldn't give a stuff then I wouldn't bother saying anything.
Angry because someone no longer makes the type of music you want to listen
to
and has the gall to make what they want ? How odd.
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From: Matthew Stringer
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 6:43 PM
To: mailto:tadream%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] What should be done to promote the legacy of TD?
There's a time for eloquence, and there's a time for anger.
it wasn't the former.
"I'm sorry but fuck, off."
Very eloquent. Not.
From: Matthew Stringer
Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2012 6:17 PM
To: mailto:tadream%40yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [tadream] What should be done to promote the legacy of TD?
No, not at all, I stuck with them up until 220 Volt then couldn't take
any
more.
Occasionally I have a listen to a new record or scope out a YouTube link
just to see but it's all fairly awful.
I decided to give them one more chance last year when they played
Manchester as it's local but it was so terrible I could have cried, just
a
3 hour dirge of fuzzy bass without any light or shade, contemplated
walking out several times but I was someones ride home so had to stay.
I heard the 'remix' of Horizon yesterday, the original is achingly
stunning, the subtle build to that orgasmic sequence is just something
that no-one else could do, but this new version is so awful it made me
angry, they were the best thing in the world and now we have shit like
that that sounds like it was done buy some spod on YouTube and Ed has the
audacity to stamp the Tangerine Dream name on it. I'm sorry but fuck, off.
I like most of the stuff up until Franke left, which I still listen to and
often, there's been a few releases of legacy stuff with him on such as
Valley of the Sun and Vanishing Blue which served as a reminder of what
they used to be able to do before they fell out and threw it all away. But
for new music there's a whole world of people making much more interesting
things to listen to.
As to why am I still on the list? Well it's free, I like the people on
here and there's always that hope that one day some archive material will
see the light of day. Failing that maybe when Ed shakes a 6 Franke,
Baumann, Schmoelling & Haslinger will get together to do a tribute gig and
remind us what the name Tangerine Dream really meant.
Post by Derek GatleySo you have wasted the last 25 years listening to a band you no longer
like? Think that says more about you than it does about Edgar.
Seriously, I sometimes wonder why some people are even on this list.
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